note 1　Repeated Murder of Avatars：
Swamiji's satsangs suggesting that he would be killed

A) 7th August 2007

How can we make the best use of a divine person?

Question: Swamiji said that he was wondering whether we would make good use of him or not when he comes out. Now Swamiji is here for one week; how can we make the best use of him during this time?

Swamiji: "First you should think patiently. I can’t keep this body for 100 years. I have a certain time here and once I will have to go in samadhi. Even though I go in samadhi, I will continue to solve your problems. This is what I have already told you.

Consider Jesus Christ, who came to this world about 2,000 years ago. At that time, not everyone understood Jesus Christ's divine powers. Only very few individuals understood them. With Jesus Christ there, the whole world would have been involved in spirituality. They accused him so that he couldn't teach. They put him in jail, crucified him and killed him. Only a very few people at that time understood about him. You all know the bible, so I don't have to tell you more about this. The worldly people didn't understand Jesus Christ completely, they didn't realize his divine powers and didn't understand his teachings. They didn't follow his teachings and finally they only killed him. Ordinary people did this to him. Some of those ordinary people acted as if they were involved in spirituality. Those are the people who did this. These were people who were also in spirituality, but they thought that it would be a dishonour for them to respect others or other great avatars or saints who are on the spiritual path. They thought if everyone starts to respect and follow Jesus Christ, then they would not pay them any respect or honour anymore. These are people who cover themselves with a blanket called spirituality but they are not really spiritual people. These are the people who wanted name and fame in the Kingdom and wanted the kings to only have faith in them.

Similarly Gautama Buddha lived around 2,500 years ago. He also faced the same problems. He was a king, a Brahmin king, a Hindu. Yet, he was fed up of the Hindu religion because the kings of those times and even his own father didn't want him to go on the Hindu spiritual path.

The kings in those days used to go and meet great saintly people to get a boon from them. They would ask, "My son wants to become a sannyasin in the Hindu religion. He is my only son. If he goes on this path, there won’t be anyone to rule my country. So please make my son rule this country, leading a married life, doing good dharma and charity for our people." The saints used to say, "We bless your son and we will make him do this if he comes to meet us and gets our blessings."

This is what happened to Lord Buddha. They told him that he has to go and meet a great saint who can materialize things and who can see his future. They said, "If he says you should go on the spiritual path, then you can do so. If he says you should rule the country then you have to do that because he has all the divine powers and he can do anything. He is such a great saint that, when you receive his darshan, even your room will be filled with that divinity." So Buddha immediately went by horse-driven chariot to meet that saint. He thought, "I want to become a sannyasin!" However, that saint said that he should not become a sannyasin and said that he is the person who should rule the country. Hearing this, Buddha replied that he is the one who should live in the forest! After giving this reply, he went directly to the forest and started to meditate for seven years continuously.

In the forest, he saw many skeletons of those who had meditated under the trees. He thought, "Even if I die, it is okay for me. I want to see enlightenment, I have to attain enlightenment." He was determined in that. Before going to sit there in meditation he said, "If You Yourself, God, bring food to the place where I am, then I will eat. Otherwise I won’t eat anything." He meditated and became thinner and thinner. When he was at the very edge of death, food came to him by itself. He ate the food and reached enlightenment. After that he started teaching the Buddha Sanatana Dharma.

Buddha didn’t have any ego. He didn't have any jealousy. He never gossiped. He didn't have any bad qualities. A person who was born as a king meditated in the forest for seven years, attained the highest state and was teaching spirituality to this world.

At the time he was doing this, language, religion and caste were all firmly established in this country. This spiritual Buddha didn't differentiate between people on the basis of caste, religion or language. Nearly one thousand people received robes from Buddha. What he taught them was not to talk gossip and to always be thinking of God.

During the time when he was teaching, there were many princes - around 500 - who took robes from Buddha. They were all Brahmins. The sons of low caste kings also received robes from Buddha. He was a person who didn't discriminate on the basis of caste or religion, so he gave robes to all. 2,500 years ago they were all eating together at the same place. The higher caste people and the lower caste people were all mixed, sitting together and eating. The high cast kings came to see this and when they saw that Buddha was making the people of all castes eat together they decided Buddha was not acting correctly. They thought it was a waste of their high caste if they were going to be mixed with the other castes. The sons didn’t listen to their fathers. They were all on the path to enlightenment that Buddha was showing them. They placed Buddha under house arrest.

The first conference of Buddha was taking place and they kept Buddha under house arrest. Then they released him. They instructed to put poison in the food he was going to eat. They mixed the poison in the food. Buddha ate it and died. Why did they kill him? He wanted to make the world realize that spirituality doesn’t see caste, religion or even language.

I can tell you many stories like this about great saints, avatars and spiritual souls. All these stories are one hundred percent true. What is happening here? The Dharma they are teaching becomes poison to them, but they do not care about that. The reason for this happening is that humans are not acting as human beings.

You have all come from foreign countries. If I tell you that you should not take drugs, you should not drink alcohol, you should all slowly become vegetarian, some of you will accept this good advice and some of you won't. Let me give you an example. I started building this Ashram in 1983, so in 2008 it will have been 25 years ago. You saw that moments ago a boy came, fell at my feet and worshipped me. Because of this boy I am in prison today. He had a love affair with a girl. That girl's mother came to me and told me I should not let her daughter have a love affair with him because he is of a low caste and they are of a high caste. I called that girl and asked her why she is doing something that her mother doesn't like. I advised her lovingly; that is all I did.

That girl left the Ashram, she joined a women's group here and she laid down a complaint that Swamiji had raped her six years earlier. There was no evidence because she told that it had happened six years earlier. I have never even touched her. These are all orphanage children.

I wanted to raise orphanage children, but they were doing harm to me. For me that was not a reason to stop bringing up these children. Those who testified against me are in the Ashram now. I am not angry with them, I have a lot of love for them. Everyone scolded me and asked me whether I have any brain, because the children came back to me and with their help I am running this Ashram. Everyone was asking me why I was doing this. I think that human beings are persons who are not mature.

If you touch a scorpion it will sting you. There is a fire and the scorpion is moving towards that fire. I am a charity-minded person and a person who doesn't want harm to come to anyone, so should I let the scorpion die in the fire or should I save that scorpion? I should save that scorpion. I am going to save that scorpion even though it will sting me. When it stings, I have that pain but it doesn't matter. I am always doing good. I will save that scorpion again and again. Even if it stings me again I won’t worry about it. It is my nature to protect and save always. I don't want to find out why it is stinging me and why it is doing harm to me.

Tomorrow you may scold me. You may even criticize me. I am not a person who will worry about all this. I am a good person according to my conscience. I am truthful to God. I ask God whether I am a good person and God says yes. I am fully satisfied with that. If I ask Lakshmi whether I am a good person and she says "No, because you are always scolding me, you are always finding fault with me, you are saying whatever I do is wrong," I don't worry about all these things. I don't care even whether Lakshmi says I am a good person or a bad person. I want to be good to God only. The question is, to what extent do you want to be good towards me?

You asked how you can make the best use of me during this week. But we cannot talk about only one week. The question is how to make the best use of a divine person. Even the questions you ask are wrong. But that doesn't mean I can just give a wrong reply to you, does it? I have to correct your question and then I should also give you the correct reply for that. Why Jesus Christ die? Because of an ordinary person like you, like Lakshmi, like Martin. It were human beings who killed him. Who killed Buddha? A human being. You should think that you have not understood their state. You don't understand their state. Whether it is for one week or ten years, the reply to this question is that you should understand their state.

Understanding is very important for this. If you don't understand, can you study? If a child does something wrong, can I be blamed for that? No. Therefore, you should have that maturity. It is not correct to think that, since Swamiji is here, if you can sit beside him you will get the Divine. It is not correct to think like that. You want to cook for Swamiji. By cooking for him can you attain enlightenment? By washing his clothes, cleaning his slippers, can you attain enlightenment? No, you cannot attain enlightenment like that. They said this 2,000 years ago. You are all very well educated. What you should realize is that understanding is very important. It may be one week or ten years or even one day - if there is no understanding then there will always be misunderstanding. What is the meaning of misunderstanding? If there is understanding then you are going to know about him. If you misunderstand him then you can’t know about him. That is all. I should not tell you the reply in a short way. I want to reply to you with stories so that you can understand very well.

It is not wrong that this girl went away from this Ashram and told these stories. I don't consider this as a wrong deed. That girl had a love affair with a man, I stopped that and because of this she got very angry. Is it her fault? Imagine a girl here has a boyfriend. I will say that if you want, you can marry him and be with him, but I don't believe that he will look after you until you die. That is all I can tell. If I were to tell her, "Don’t marry him!" then if that girl would get angry towards me, and she goes and tells something about me, then there would happen another problem. You are all not yet mature.

I am coming close to you. I am always in a dangerous situation. That is why I am always telling to you to understand me. I don't have any personal anger towards you. When the time comes I have to book the flight ticket - the samadhi ticket. Before that you have to learn something from me.

Why don't you do that? Can you attain enlightenment by learning in seven days? Buddha attained enlightenment only after seven years. How a great king he was! He had many comforts and luxuries. You don't have anything but you put on a show of false acting. All this is a waste of your time. Come closer to God.

This is a good question and a good reply to it.

(note: In the above text, names such as Lakshmi and Martin are not real ones which Swamiji said in his satsang, they are replaced with.)
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---You remain in falsehood without maturing yourself. You cheat yourself. You say "Spirituality, spirituality!" and put a spiritual blanket over yourselves. There is no spirituality in your mind, in your heart or in your thoughts.---(2009 Mahashivaratri)


B) 2010 Mahashivaratri


Krishna was sitting under a tree. A hunter approached that area, and from a distance, mistook Krishna's foot for a rabbit. He aimed his arrow at Krishna's foot. That arrow pricked Krishna's toe. The hunter was extremely upset that this had happened. He said to Krishna, "I have been the cause of your injury." Krishna said, "No, you have not. It was already written that the arrow of a hunter would cause my death. You will reach heaven and I'm also going to heaven."(comment; It happened again in the case of Jesus.)

I told this story because whether the person is an avatar or a human being, whatever is destined for him to happen will happen. This is what happened to Jesus. Jesus knew that there would be consequences if he were to speak about spirituality to the townspeople but he thought that he must do it because that was his destiny. He knew that he was going to lose his life and that he was going to be crucified. However, he wanted to overcome death. Therefore he allowed his life to ebb away and conquered death by his resurrection.

Before he was taken in to custody he went to a rock and spoke to his father in heaven and said that the blood from his body must be taken out. So he let his own blood pour out of his body. Then he told his disciples that someone would point him out by kissing or embracing him and then he would be take in to custody. During the last supper he was with all of the twelve disciples. He said to them, "One of you will betray me." The person who was going to betray him was very vociferous saying, "Who will do such a thing, who will do it?" When somebody is very vociferous you must be extremely careful with regard to such people. They might let you down. Thereafter he was take in to custody, arrested and put in to jail. Four people were to be crucified that day. In those times they had an annual festival on which they could pardon and release one person who had been sentenced to death. Pontius Pilate suggested to the people that Jesus should be released, as he seemed to be a religious person, but they would not allow him to be released. Instead, they asked for a murderer to be released. The remaining three people were crucified. They put thorns on their heads, nails in their hands and crucified them. Blood was flowing out of each of them. The person to the right of Jesus said, "You said that you were the Son of God, so why are you shedding blood like this? You said you would be in heaven but where are you? You are shedding blood." The other person said, "I don't know anything but if there is a heaven please take me with you, I will come with you." You could see the difference between the people on each side of Jesus. Jesus blessed the man who asked if he could go to heaven. Then he told him that he was about to die. That person with faith in him said, "It takes a long time for a person to die after they have been crucified. How is it that you are already dying within such a short time?" Jesus told him that he knew he was going to be crucified and so he had shed most of his blood two days earlier on top of a hill. Then the believer asked him if it was possible for him to die at the same time as Jesus. While he was talking, Jesus' life ebbed away and his head hung down. The believer called to the guards and told them that he had passed away and that they had killed a good soul. The guards wanted to find out how he could have died so quickly and in order to check, they sent a spear in to his side. The believer told them not to do that, as he was already dead. And he himself died whilst saying that. The non-believer wondered how it was that both Jesus and the other man were already dead.

I am telling you this story to illustrate that even the way and time in which Jesus was to pass away had already been decided. Krishna had to die by the arrow of a hunter and Jesus had to die on the cross. Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism are all good religions. Many members of royal families from kings to princes and princesses became the disciples of Buddha when he was preaching. Some devotees wanted to know if they could also take up robes even though they were from lower castes. Buddha told them that caste was not important but the devotion of the person was, so he gave robes to those people. The royal families who were around him were all Brahmins. Buddha was also a Brahmin. The Brahmins were very annoyed that Buddha had given robes to low caste people and they wanted to kill him. Buddha knew he was going to be murdered but he didn't care about that. He didn't have any attachments to his body. Brahmins don't accept alms from others nor do they eat non-vegetarian food. They don't eat what others cook; they only eat what other Brahmins cook. Buddha went out to collect alms. Everybody knew that he would line up to collect alms and the kings gave instructions to poison the food which would be given to Buddha that day. Buddha knew very well that there was poison in the food but he knew that the time for him to die had come. The important thing to know is that before he ate the food he knew it was poisoned. Normally when he took the alms back to his house he would give it to two of his disciples to share. Those two disciples were very close to him. He took a bath and asked his disciples to eat. He told them not to sit with him and eat but to eat before him. He said that he would only eat when they had finished eating. Why did he do this? Because usually, when he had finished eating, the two disciples shared the remainder of his food as prasadam. Buddha told them that the food he had received as alms that day was only for him and not for them. They all finished eating then he asked them to sit and he made a speech. His disciples and devotees were all seated together around Buddha. He ate the food and within a few minutes he was dead. Buddha knew that his time had come to die so he ate that food and he died. All saints and great persons know when the time has come for them to die.
Jai Prema Shanti!



While one has some desires for worldly things, he should do everything in the world.
Only after he has found that he can never be satisfied with anything in the world, he should come and receive teachings from saints.

C) Q: I heard that when an enlightened being drinks or eats something and then gives it to us we can get enlightened immediately. Is this true?

Yes it is true. If he gives you poison and you eat that poison then you can become enlightened! You will die and you'll become enlightened (about that you had died because of eating poison)!

Don't take enlightenment as something so cheap!! You can't become enlightened by eating the remains of someone else's food. The benefit that you get here is that you are surrendering your ego by taking the remains of the food of another person, a saint. When you eat that, there is a certain amount of surrendering of the ego and to that extent, you develop through this surrendering but this has nothing to do with enlightenment.…If you close your eyes, no thoughts should enter your mind for at least fifteen minutes. Your mind should be blank. You should come to that state, then you can talk about enlightenment. This is the first step to enlightenment. It is only after that you can reach that stage of having your mind free of thoughts for at least ten or fifteen minutes.

Why are you talking about enlightenment?
Why don't you just do your work and be happy?